MBTA Appeals Dec. 19th Judgement

court-gavelDear members,

In a continuing effort to keep you updated on the court proceedings surrounding our arbitration award, we wanted to inform you that the MBTA has appealed the judgement made by Superior Court Judge Janet Sanders on Dec. 19th. Click here for a copy of the notice of appeal.

Our attorneys advise us and the union that the appeal has little chance, and that our award and contract remain in effect. We will continue to keep you updated as new information becomes available. If you have any questions, please contact the union office.

In solidarity,

Executive Board,
Boston Carmen’s Union, Local 589

Permanent link to this article: https://carmensunion589.org/2013/12/mbta-appeals-dec-19th-judgement/

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    • misled on January 13, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    They also pay your salaries convention trips and whatever other money that’s wasted so don’t you think its time to give them answers …

    • misled on January 13, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    There’s 48 comments from members wanting an update and answers from our elected union officials…Not a word from 589…not so professional is it…well 589 executive board step up and act like executives and update your members who not only pay union dues but also voted for you bums..give them answers..

    • Sir Allen White on January 13, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Everyone knows we earned every penny of our salaries. Yes we are entitled to a fair contract for all working members!
    We’re not braking the bank by any means.
    But politics is always in play, especially when it comes to the MBTA.
    There’s just no getting around it. You know it’s easy to speak against
    the executive board. Remember they come out of the work force.
    None of them are laywers. I for one wouldn’t want to be lead by a team of lawyers. And as far as the courts go. They move on their on Schedule.

    stay safe and warm…..

    • eddie on January 13, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Hope you people are happy we voted for a guy who doesn’t give a crap at least our former president did.. keep complaining I didn’t vote for this guy…

    • fedup on January 13, 2014 at 1:37 pm

    Our former president spent 3 years fighting for this award and kept us informed this o’brien guy did nothing and refuses to inform us on what’s going on .. hope your all happy with your votes big mistake

    • uthergental on January 11, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    To:
    Mr. O’Brien,
    I do not understand how the MBTA is able to appeal to the Superior court when the ruling was from a Superior court Judge? The Appellate division or the State SJC should be the next venues. I hope that the legal team for our union will file a counter brief to the higher courts and just end this. How many bites at the apple are the MBTA going to get?

    • Fabulous on January 10, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    Everyone who works for the T should show up at the next Union meeting regardless where you’re coming from. Pack the house then agree to go back to work the next day and doc the speed limit.

    • Uthergental on January 10, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    First,
    I would like to say to my brothers and sisters who are on the front lines driving day in and day out, my hat is off to you. with the work load that you all have to deal with and the fleet in such disrepair, and still coming to work on 2006 , 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 cost of living pay scales, (cola) God bless you all.
    as to the matter at hand I am hoping that when our union files a counter brief, they ask the union legal team to fast track it into the State SJC and end this. I don’t know how we can enter into any new contractual negotiations when they have not honored the present decision. I say this because I agree with Justice Sanders in that the courts power is limited after an arbitrator has ruled. That is the purpose of arbitration. Two parties do not agree, they enter into arbitration and that ruling is final.
    Yes, we will prevail in court because no other judge wants to overturn another judges ruling unless they can find something egregious that has been done or overlooked by the Arbitrator. Justice Sanders in her sound ruling found none.

  1. put the blame where it belongs , when we were awarded this contract they should have had no right to appeal over and over again. The governor appointed the union buster from Alanta ,so next time do not vote democrat. give the new appointees a chance to straighten this out.

    • Pis$ed on January 10, 2014 at 8:26 am

    11 days since the appeal and we’ve heard nothing. Am I already sorry for whom I voted for?

    • raggamuffin on January 9, 2014 at 10:57 am

    fellow 589 members let us don’t do anything stupid just follow the ruled of the mbta.passengers are all comfortable b4 moving off 6 mph is treated as 6mph.collect all fares b4 moving vehicle.adhere to all speed restrictions.

    • messanger on January 9, 2014 at 8:54 am

    I looked into your statements, 689 has a contract it was challenged in court in Washington D.C., the union won, it took 2 years to prevail. You should not say things that are not true.

    • JD on January 8, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    This is what we have to look forward to, 689 has had no raise since 2007,
    http://www.atulocal689.org/NoAppealonContract.htm

    • TANKBOY on January 8, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    So executive board what did our/589 Lawyers say ? i would like to know by today!!!!! Thankyou.

    • chris on January 8, 2014 at 11:39 am

    Almost 10 days later and still no word on the appeal court date?????
    Communication is essential!!!! However no further information has been given to us….

    • Tankboy on January 7, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    Anybody consider this ??? our retro heading to wards TAX season?????

    • Al on January 6, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Happy new year brothers and sisters fellow operators, I understand your frustrations. We have always been treated badly by management and the public and disciplined for petty stuff that’s not our fault due to handicapped policies by the mbta. But we need to stick together and respect each other, this just reaffirms us that they do not value us as front line employees , but let’s be the professionals that we are, and let the chickens come home to roost.

    • j dimare on January 6, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    MEMBERSHIP HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW….WHAT IS THE MBTA APPEALING…THE WHOLE JUDGEMENT OR TIME THEY NEED TO PAY US…. IF THE BOARD GOING ON. A BUS TOUR TO MEET EVERYONE .CAN YA ATLEAST HAVE THESES QNSWERS READY FOR US.

    • TANKBOY on January 6, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    589 executive board… You need to let the membership of any news BIG or small everyday , thjis why you got elected and make the pay you make!! No more stupid lip service cuz you can go back a push Quaters out of a window as I usta say back in the day! I agree with Allen WhiteCheers

    • misled on January 6, 2014 at 10:26 am

    How about an update 589.not a word since have a happy new yr and a oh by the way the t appealed courts ruling…lets get it together executive board…

    • Anne Austin on January 6, 2014 at 9:45 am

    Carmen’s Union management is joke – they are allowing this and I agree an emergency meeting is order.
    They need to explain where everything in the lawsuit stands and what they intend to do about it to all of us.

    This is BS.

    • Professor Rick on January 6, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Sir A.W., for one, is correct.It is easier, and more effective to play the waiting game; for their appeals to run out. Our case/award is sound, and every day they do not pay us–it is costing them many $$$K. Slow downs and work stoppages, are NOT going to make our interaction with the public, thus our jobs, any easier. Poor service will only solidify the public against us.

    Slow-downs are what’s keeping you/us in freezing cold buses with no HEAT these days. Heck, my car has heat; and if it didn’t, I’d sure know what to do about it.

    Here’s to one high-three toward retirement!

    • John Clements on January 6, 2014 at 7:48 am

    I believe that we must take action however we have to understand that within the context of a bad economy the public will not be in favor of our contract. I believe that we need to create a group of writers that can address on a weekly basis the ideas, concerns and thoughts that the public privately are angry about and we should begin with Dr. Beverly Scott who has a PHD in Political Science. Not Transportation, Not in Business, Not in Management but Political Science. This among other things such as there are no bathroom facilities for the public at Park St or you can buy a ticket at one side of Park but can’t use it as the machines only take smart cards. There are like issues in very many areas and we have the opportunity to take the gloves off and get some issues out there that the public would praise us for addressing in the public.

  2. That exactly what our union wants us to always do. Sit back and do nothing just like them. You kno how many greenline employees get disiplined each week? Even more are getting fired. And you guys think because you get some of our jobs back means we should relax. How about fighting for our jobs before we get fired. You guys don t want to fight for our right you dont want us to fight for our own right but we pay you to do it. Something does have to be done. I agree there is no better way to show the public and management we are top notch employees then following the rules, taking our time, making sure all our passenger are completely comcoftable before moving our vehicles. Let’s continue to be the best employees we can be while silently standing up for our rights while the government holds our money back and the union takes it on there a**es. Happy New year 589

  3. That exactly what our union wants us to always do. Sit back and do nothing just likr them. You kno how many greenline employees get disiplined each week? Even more are getting fired. And you guys think because you get some of our jobs back means we should relax. How about fighting for our jobs before we get fired. You guys do t want to fight for our right you dont want us to fight for our own right but we pay you to do it. Something does have to be done. I agree there is no better way to show the public and management we are top notch employees then following the rules, taking our time, making sure all our passenger are completely

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